在中国乘坐高铁是种什么感觉 [美国媒体]

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Obviously this requires some generalising but what are some cool things you’ve noticed about Chinese people that seem to be shared cultural values/traits even if it doesn’t apply universally to everyone?
(Dedicated to Feifei Wang who once commented on the dearth of these kind of questions.)

你是否注意到关于中国人一些非常酷的事情，他们共享文化价值观/文化特质，即便这些文化价值观和特质并不普遍适用于每个人，显然这可能需要进行笼统的说明。
（送给王菲菲，因为她之前说这类问题很少）。


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Pablo Djankowicz Ruizinowitz Have lived in China and am interested in its history
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It feels great! Very comparable to a Japanese shinkansen train (which I’ve also ridden).

 P.DR在中国生活过并对中国历史十分痴迷。中国高铁绝对比得上日本新干线（新干线我也坐过）。

My ride on a Chinese bullet train was from Beijing to Taishan in Shandong province. So about a four-hour car drive I think?
Got there in 30 minutes in complete comfort.

 我曾乘坐子弹头列车从北京前往山东泰山，开车大约4小时，而高铁舒舒服服30分钟就到。

The other high-speed Chinese train I’ve ridden is the famous Shanghai-to-airport maglev train. That was the fastest train I’ve ever ridden in. The 5 to 10 minutes went by really quickly.

我还曾在上海坐磁悬浮列车到机场，这是我这辈子坐过最快的列车，大概5-10分钟就到了。

What TRULY impressed me though were the not China’s high speed trains but the trains poor migrant workers use in China.

给我留下最深印象的不是中国高铁列车而是贫穷农民工所使用的列车。

I wanted to travel cheap (on a student budget) and I wanted to go to Hong Kong from Beijing. But I didn’t want to fly since I had done that a lot already and it’s a bad way to see a country since you’re literally thousands of feet removed from it. I figured why not try out my Chinese skills and ride a train by myself from Beijing to Hong Kong?
I forget how I bought the ticket but I managed to. I think I did it online and a Chinese-speaking friend helped me. Then I went to the train station by myself. EVERYTHING was in Chinese. But I managed to read directions without asking people for help (my spoken Chinese is almost non-existent).

因为我是学生，从北京去香港的旅行想省钱，所以我决定不坐飞机，因为在空中飞行的过程太无聊了。所以我准备应用我的中文技能，坐火车去香港。
我忘了自己是怎么买到票的了，好像是网上买的，一个讲中文的朋友帮了我。然后我去了火车站（因为我的中文口语太烂，没好意思找中国人帮忙），只是自己阅读着中文指示蹬车。（这老外是来炫自己的中文的吧，高铁的方向不都是双语的么？）

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In a massive atrium filled with hundreds of people waiting for their trains I think was the only non-Chinese person. I looked around in vain for a Western face but could find none. Exciting!

一个巨大的中庭里充满了好几百等候火车的人，我想我是唯一一个外国人。我环视一周徒劳无功的没有找到另一个西方面孔。令人激动！

Then I boarded the train—and I was shocked. It was a million times better than I expected. I honestly thought it was going to be very barebones and basic like the trains for working people in Thailand and Egypt (both of which I’ve ridden) or what I’ve seen in pictures of Indian trains. What I found was the complete opposite. This train was advanced and had very comfortable compartments chairs the works. This train was way WAY better than some of the commuter or travel trains they have in America for middle-class people. And this was economy class—the cheapest of the cheap tickets you could get so only poor Chinese people were riding. Now I understood why the Chinese Communist Party has legitimacy among the common people—because of this stuff! Amazing!

等我上了火车——我震惊了。它比我期待的好上百万倍。我以为它会像泰国和埃及的上班族乘坐的火车（两者我都坐过）那样简单和基础，或者像印度照片上的火车。我发现它完全不同。它更先进，有着非常舒适的车厢椅子。它比美国中产阶级通勤或者旅行时乘坐的那种火车好很多了。而且这是经济舱——你能买到的最便宜的廉价车票，所有只有中国贫穷的人乘坐。现在我完全理解了为什么中国共产党在普通人心中有合法性——因为有这些东西!令人吃惊！

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I made a friend on the 24-hour train—I could not speak a word to him but we wrote in Chinese characters on a notebook. He invited me to eat the duck he was sharing with his friends. It was a memorable experience.

我在一趟一天一夜的高铁上结识了一个朋友。虽然我们语言不通，但我们两个在本子上写汉字，进行交流。他和他的朋友请我一起吃鸭肉。这是一次难以忘怀的高铁之旅。

I arrived in Shenzhen starving (didn’t know that I could order food from passing food vendors on the train) and bade a quick good-bye to the friendly man so I could find food.

到深圳的时候，我饿了（我不知道可以在车厢的小推车上买东西吃），我急匆匆和那个友好的人道别，好快点去找点吃的。
 
Then I crossed the border between China and Hong Kong. That was an interesting experience too. But this 24-hour train trip remains one of my more cherished memories of my few months in China.

然后我跨过了大陆和香港的交界线，这也是个有趣的经历。但是，在我为期几月的中国之行中，这趟一天一夜的高铁之旅是我一次较为珍贵的回忆。

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Chris Edwards Australian living in Shenzhen always learning about China
Written Fri

克里斯 爱德华 澳大利亚人，住在深圳，一直在学习中国
写于周五

Oh it is amazing!!

哦，这太棒了！！
 
I have on two occasions opted to take the high speed train between Shenzhen and Beijing along with various shorter trips to and from Shenzhen.

我有两次选择坐深圳到北京的高铁，以及另外多次往返深圳的短途高铁旅行。

Now some of you may ask “What sort of crazy bastard takes a train halfway across the country that’s going to take you a day to complete?” This crazy bastard that knows what he is doing that’s who!!

现在你们一些人也许会问我“这混蛋有多疯狂才会花费一整天的时间坐火车横穿整个国家？”这个疯狂的混蛋很清楚他在做什么
 
Here are my reasons:
1、Price competitiveness: I can get a first class seat on a train at a similar price to an economy flight (about 1400RMB) so I figure that’s worth it straight away.

我是我的理由：
1、价格因素：花费相当于经济舱的价格，我在火车上能坐一等座（大约1400人民币），所以我立刻发现这很值！

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2、Time factor: This is one of the big ones. Anyone who has flown domestically in China has to remember that something approximating 70% of Chinese airspace is reserved for the military leaving about 30% for everybody else. This means that there are chronic delays and cancellations. Let’s not talk about the weather problems that might prevent your flight from taking off at all (smog fog or snow in Beijing typhoon or rain storms in Shenzhen). On the other hand the high speed trains are BRUTALLY on time - you miss your train by a minute and you can watch it pull away.

2、时间因素：这是很多重要原因中的一个。任何在中国坐过国内航班的人都应该知道，接近70%的空域是为军队保留的，剩下的30%才是民用的。这意味着航班经常延误和取消。更不要说天气问题，这很可能让飞机根本没法起飞（北京的雾霾，雾或者下雪，深圳的台风或暴雨）另一方面，高铁残忍的准时——即使你晚到了一分钟，都能看着火车开走
 
Also think about how long you have to wait around. I calculated that my total commute (including getting from my home to the train station and where I needed to wind up in Beijing) from Shenzhen to Beijing was going to be about 10.5 hours. It would take me one hour to get to the airport in Shenzhen then the 2 hour wait in the airport (3 hours) then 3.5 hours in the air (6.5 hours) then another hour in the airport on the other side (7.5 hours) plus at least another hour to get to where I would normally need to go on the other side of Beijing by metro (8.5 hours). This assumes that there are no delays AT ALL (extremely unlikely) so the difference is almost negligble.  

还有，考虑一下你要花多长时间候车/机。我计算过我整个往来时间（包括从我家到火车站和在北京收尾的部分）从深圳到北京大约将会花费10.5小时。如果坐飞机的话，我要花一小时到达深圳的机场，然后花两小时在机场等待（3小时），然后在空中花费3.5小时（6.5小时），然后在目的地机场又花费一个小时（7.5小时），再坐上至少一个小时地铁才能到我在北京经常去的地方（8.5小时）。这还是假设完全没有延迟的情况（非常不可能），所以二者的区别几乎可以忽略不计。

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3、Comfort: We all know what planes are like for comfort but the trains are very comfortable as other answer-ers have said. The first class carriages are even better - the last time I took a long distance high speed train (Beijing to Shenzhen about 8 hours) I plugged a power board into the plug so I could keep my devices charged as well as allowing the guy sitting next to me to charge his iPhone.

3、舒适性：我们都知道飞机上感觉是什么样，但是火车是非常舒适的，就像另一个答题者说的。一等座的空间甚至更好——上次我坐远途高铁的时候（从北京到深圳大概8小时）我把插排插在插座上，这样可以持续给我的设备充电，还能让我旁边的家伙给他的iPhone充电。
 
4、View: Yes you do get a much better view of the world whipping by at up to 315 kilometres an hour. Sure sometimes you’re going through tunnels but that just comes with the territory.

4、景色：是的，在每小时315公里的时速下，你能看到比世界其他地方好得多的景色。当然有些时候你会穿过隧道，但这要看地形如何。
 
5、Beds: With the introduction of overnight sleeper trains between Shenzhen/Guangzhou and Beijing/Shanghai you can get a soft sleeper from north to south or vice versa at about 1200RMB. This means that people don’t have to book a flight AND a hotel room and these trains have proved to be exceptionally popular booking out early.

5、床：在深圳/广州和北京/上海之间有隔夜的卧铺列车，你可以花大约1200人民币买到从北到南的软卧，反之亦然。这意味着人们不需要航班和酒店一起订，这些卧铺列车在售票时异常火爆。
 
So the high speed trains are freaking awesome… I highly recommend it and I am absolutely looking forward to the introduction of the Shenzhen to Kowloon HSR that will cut my trip time to Hong Kong down to 15 minutes!!

所以高铁实在太棒了……我强烈推荐。我绝对期待深圳到九龙高铁的建成，这会让我去香港的旅程减到15分钟。

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Ciel Québécois Ou la la
Written Mar 1
I take the Chinese bullet train on a regular basis usually traveling from Shanghai Hongqiao to Nanjing South and back mostly on 1st class ( company covers the bills ).

我定期乘坐一等座往返上海虹桥到南京南站的高铁（公司报销）。
 
I do not mind taking the 2nd class seat which already is very generous and comfortable. Actually a 2nd class seat on a Chinese bullet train has much more leg rooms than that of the Economy Comfort/Premium class that an airliner has to offer.

其实我并不介意乘坐二等座，二等座也蛮宽敞和舒适的。实际上中国动车二等座比飞机上的优质经济舱有更大的腿部空间。
 
However the seats are not as comfortable as their European counterparts say the French TGV or its licensed Korean version the KTX or the ICE from Deutsche Bahn. The seat configuration for 2nd class on European high-speed trains is 2+2 comparing to China’s 2+3 the seats in Europe are considerably wider.

但是中国高铁二座位的舒适度比不上欧洲同行比方说法国TGV或者韩版KTX或者德国的ICE，欧洲高铁二等座布局是2+2而非中国的2+3，所以对于二等座欧洲的更宽一些。



( image above : 2nd class on a Chinese High Speed Train )
A 1st class wagon has a seat configuration of 2+2 totaling four seats on a roll. The seats are therefore wider and also thicker feel more solid. They are usually covered by red fabrics.

一等座座位布局每排是2+2，座位比较宽敞厚重结实，座椅套是红色的。


 
(image above : 1st class on a Chinese High Speed Train)
You do need to bear in mind that a lot Chinese people talk rather loudly especially when talking on the phone. And they do not have the slightest conscience that this can be disturbing to others. It can be very stressful for people who are not accustomed to this culture.

需要注意的是很多中国人大声交谈，特别是在讲电话的时候，他们毫不介意这样会打搅别人，对于不习惯这种大嗓门传统的人来说会感觉压力山大。

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Ray Comeau A decade in China interest in geopolitics
Written Mar 2
Ray Comeau  在中国十年，对地缘政治感兴趣
写于3月2号
A2A
High speed train is the best way to travel in China.
1- Train stations are located in the inner city. So you do not need to travel long distance to get to the station unlike airports.
2- You do not need to arrive at the train station hours before it departs.
3- The ride is very comfortable. You can walk on the train. Lots of toilets. Cafeteria on the train for meals and drinks.
4- You bring as many bags you can carry.
5- For short distances train is faster then taking an airplane.
My only disappointment with the train system is lacks the ability to connect all stations to enable you reach every destination. Unlike the airplane booking system that will book seats on different planes to get from A to X to reach your destination the Chinese system is not developed enough to do this online.

高铁是中国最好的旅行方式。
1- 火车站位于城市中间。所以你不需要花很久就能到车站，跟机场不一样。
2- 在发车前，你不需要提前数小时到火车站。
3- 旅途非常舒适。你可以在火车上走动，很多厕所。火车上有供应食物和饮料的自助餐厅。
4- 只要你背的动，可以带很多包裹
5- 短途旅行比坐飞机快
我唯一不满的是，列车没能连接所有站点，导致无法抵达每个目的地。不像航班订票系统，可以预定不同飞机上的座位选择从A到X不同的航班套餐到达你的目的地，中国的在线系统这方面做得还不够好。

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Christopher Oliva Living in China since 2008
Christopher Oliva 自从2008年就一直在中国生活
Written Jul 14 2015
写于 2015年七月14号
Originally Answered: What is it like to ride a fast train on a high speed rail in China?

最初回答的是：在中国乘坐高铁是什么体验？

Generally speaking the experience is not bad. Train are new hostess are well dressed there is aircon train are clean and they are on time.

 大体上来说体验不错。列车很新，女服务员穿的很漂亮，车上有空调，很干净，而且很准时。

Comfort is not too bad although compared with french tgv or German iec the quality of the seat are not as good and comfortable. Chinese high speed train are for me a cheap version of the foreign one. I wait to see how they will get old after 10-15 years.

舒适度不错，虽然和法国的tgv或者德国的iec（都是高铁）相比椅子质量和舒适度都不行。中国的高铁对我来说就像外国高铁的廉价版。我在等着看它们十到十五年后会变得多成熟。

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Michael Martinez http://www.michael--martinez.com
Written Mar 17
Very smooth. You don’t notice the acceleration or deceleration at all. No bumps no sudden movements. Seats are spacious and comfortable. Clean interior. People are quiet and respectful. That was my experience on the high speed train from Shanghai to Hangzhou last year.

非常平稳甚至你根本感觉不到加减速，没有冲击，没有突然的晃动，座位既宽敞又舒适。车厢内部整洁，乘客安静彬彬有礼，这是我去年从上海乘坐高铁到杭州的感受。

Maciej Pas Explaining China. Simply and free of charge
Written Mar 1
You sit down you try to make yourself comfortable in the chair and then… the world outside your window blurs.
Better than a local flight not nearly as romantic as steam engines. Smooth but crowded and the food isn’t designed for Western stomachs. Big plus: contrary to airlines small to no risk of delays.

当你坐下调整个姿势让自己更舒适的时候，列车启动了，车窗外的世界刹那间模糊了。
比国内航班好多了，虽然没有蒸汽火车的浪漫。很平稳但是比较拥挤也没有适合外国人的食物。最大优势：相比航班几乎没有延迟。